would it be the united states leading, or do you think it'd be the united states taking a cue from somewhere like for instance to, for us all to jump in, if you will? >> well, it's a really good question, jenna, because there's no question that when nato urges us that we should follow like turkey is a member of nato, and if the turks feel that we should get involved in syria because they are being attacked or that their border firings, then we should support the turks. however, i think if you go back and you look exactly at what the obama administration had said our libya policy was about, it wasn't just about nato. it was about the united states doing something to help another country when there were clearly, when there was clearly violence and killings going on. so i think it's really difficult for the obama administration to pretend like a libya policy is our strategy but then look away when it comes to killings in syria. you cannot justify going into libya and not going into syria with any type of a strategy. jenna: if you're talking about humanitarian crises which is something that,'s o